Monday, 11 July 2011

Tesco Tenbury - New Application Expected Soon

Tesco are expected to make a new application to MHDC within the next few weeks.

Their "Version 3" plan is expected to feature a mostly glazed structure with wooden detailing.  The store will sit back slightly further on the site to allow room for a "Market Space" which could be used for market stalls, for instance during the Mistletoe festival.  It could also be a mustering place for the various Tenbury Parades.


Some of the glazed panels in the lobby area will feature detailing by a local artist influenced by the Orchards & Hop Gardens of the Teme Valley.  


The outline of the Old Infirmary, that will need to be demolished to make way for the store, may be shown in brick set into the tarmac, whilst other glass panels reflect the building that is no longer there.

The plan still only includes about 100 parking spaces.

Tesco hope that the store will open in time for Christmas 2012.

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Anonymous said...

I believe Tenbury is at a crossroads. What future do we want for ourselves and our children? A town dominated by a single retailer. A soul-less edifice that does not encourage people to linger in the town. Providing jobs at the minimum wage but distributing profits it to distant city shareholders? Providing carbon intensive products from far afield, rather than produce from our local farmers? Or do we want a local community comprised of colourful, creative, entrepreneurs? That recycles its profits within its local community and buys from local sources. That breathes life into the beautiful streets of our old town and engenders a sense of place and authenticity? That is the choice we are now presented with.

I know there are some who believe that Tesco always gets their way. It may well be the case that our local politicians and planning officials fear Tesco’s legal machine and feel they cannot put the councils resources at risk however, it is time to remind them who they are appointed to represent! And to Mr Cameron we should be saying ‘Your big idea – the big society - depends on capable and committed citizens feeling a sense of ownership and taking initiative in their communities. Landing an out-sized Tesco in our community without our say so, disempowers us and undermines your Big Society. Mr Cameron our commitment does not come for free, we want a say in the future of our town’.

@WR15 said...

"How many of the 'Pro-Tesco' people on this site have lived in Tenbury for a long period of time?"

So it's OK to count objections from as far away as the Isle of Man, but unless your parents were born in Tenbury, you don't get a say if your not objecting.

Seems OK to me.

@WR15 said...

"WR15 I think just like Murdoch you need to step down and let someone UNBIASED take over."

This is my blog, you don't have to read & you don't have to comment.

I set up the notenburytesco blog and handed the moderation over to Mr Bumblebee, so that it was not influenced by me in any way.

@WR15 said...

"So please qualify how 'Tenbury Future's' have mislead people"

People have contacted me thinking that Tenbury Futures had bought the site and were applying for planning permission. When in fact Tesco & Chase Tenbury have a contract for the site, which is not currently for sale.

This of course doesn't stop anyone else applying for planning permission.

I don't think Tenbury Futures set out to mislead, but a combination of their press coverage and posters confused some people.

If you think I'm totally anti some of the Tenbury Futures ideas, ask Mr Bumble about our email exchanges mid December 2010 (prior to the launch of Tenbury Futures). I just think the timing & announcements are misjudged, but that's OK, as I said earlier "I respect, but not necessarily agree with Bumble",

@WR15 said...

"it was actually Mr Chase whom wanted to create a distinguishable 'People's Supermarket' similar to the Ludlow Food Centre but not at the premium end.

I wonder why he dropped the idea? Perhaps he found it did not create sufficient ROI.

Can the Farmers Market be persuaded to return to Tenbury. It was my understanding (perhaps incorrectly" that there was insufficient trade to support it. It works well where there are plenty of Yuppies with disposable income, but perhaps not so well in Tenbury.

Lesley said...

Re anon's comment about MH Planning Dept, remember that they are between a rock and a very hard place. Yes, they are up against the might of Tesco with a seemingly unlimited pot of money for planning application resubmissions and appeals. However, MH will have the community (and others) to answer to if a) they don't make a proper decision and lose expensive appeals or b) worse still, make the site commercially un-developable with too many restrictions and we still have the eyesore we have now in 10 years time.

I am personally in the 'undecided' camp on this issue, with mixed feelings about a supermarket/no supermarket. I have to say I am not ever going to be convinced by childish mudslinging. Can we have an adult debate please?

Anonymous said...

Before people post, maybe they should read the "blog rules" - below the google search box - these end with:
If you do not like what you read here, find another blog to read, or better still write your own.

Anonymous said...

The futures bright ,its green & white .
Tenbury Futures all the way.

Mr. Longbeard said...

Is it such a crazy idea that a local referendum be held on the subject by MHDC to get a true unbiased view on the mood of the locals???

Miles Weaver said...

No @WR15

My point was that some believe people whom have spent most of thier lives in Tenbury but no visit family and friends are said to NOT to be allowed a view.

Everyone has a view, both sites and from wherever. All are stakeholders.

But an observation was made that comments are on here from outside the town (some whom were raised but living here presently). But the Pro-Tesco people seem newbies.

So I was pointing out the observation that everyone has a voice. Whether new or old. Just get on with the debate and less of the attacks. Plus stand up and be counted - state your name and be honest. I for one have and been attacked for doing so.

Miles Weaver said...

@WR15
Good work, pleased to have this blog.

Just be a little more impartial and let an argument flow. TBH, I would not allow any anomalous blogging.

Miles Weaver said...

So then on record. @WR15 has clarified that Tenbury Futures did not mislead.

Chinese whispers always happen. I do not think anyone really thought that the site had been purchased. We all know Chase owns it and Tesco is trying to buy it.

Ian (not @WR15) said...

Dr Weaver seems to be getting more and more hysterical and incoherent. He supports Whetherspoons and is on leave - are these facts connected?

@WR15 said...

A local referendum could be held, but it's result would have no impact on the planning process. The costs would be in the region of £1,000 (based on the cost of a stand alone election if two or more people contest a single vacant seat on the Town Council)

@WR15 said...

"So then on record. @WR15 has clarified that Tenbury Futures did not mislead."

No - Did not intend to mislead. Some people were misled.

Mr. Longbeard said...

".....but it's result would have no impact on the planning process"

Understood, but would stop this ming mong pong (sorry, none of you are going to get that (look it up))

The anti's say it'll destroy the town, but offer no evidence, the pro's say it'll be good for town but again offer no evidence.

The futures group won't answer specific questions or even defend the accusation of illegal fly posting.

They'd be no more annon's, no more txt speak from either side, no more accusations of attacks (Sorry Miles, I see a few posts which are poorly worded and posted in the heat of the moment but no attacks)

There's a great deal of talk, but very little being said.

I'd like to thanks @WR15 for his blog, I don;t know how you do it.

Anonymous said...

Let's be realistic!

Proposals to extend a Tesco store in Shrewsbury would make a £2.7 million dent in trade in the town centre every year.
Oh no it won't, says Tesco. It would have only a "minimal impact" on the town centre, it maintains, and has come up with figures which it contends proves it.
The rather delicious irony in all this is that £2.7 million trade loss figure comes from Indigo Public Affairs Ltd, a firm hired by Tesco to carry out a public consultation.
Bravo Indigo for telling Tesco what it thinks is right, rather than what Tesco might prefer to hear.
Councillors trying to reconcile this conflicting information may be somewhat bewildered.
Oh well, back to using old-fashioned common sense then.

Shropshire Star (July 22nd 2011).

Poor old Tesco ... they dont even
believe their own consultants now.
Sophie Akokhia Tesco corporate affairs manager said "they completely reject the figure".


Is this the same corporate affairs manager that said Tenbury Museum would be moved to the Old Fire Station ,when in fact nobody was consulted.

@WR15 said...

Re: The museum. Someone was consulted. It was his idea. He was an eminent member of the Town Council. He stated at several meetings that he thought the old fire station would be ideal for the museum. Sophie was at some of those meetings. I reported this to the Chairman of the museum society because I couldn't believe it was correct. This is why Tesco applied for change of use on the old fire station which was passed by Malvern.

Anonymous said...

Wr15
Whoops. I should have put the wrong person had been consulted
I would have thought the Chair would have been approached first.

Link to TTC Minutes said...

Tesco may have been misled into thinking it had been agreed. Click on the link above. Look at 10.28. Item 1.

Anonymous said...

Mr Longbeard
Perhaps you need to go the CM site with a pen & paper and take the car registration numbers, who i believe are parking on somebody elses land .Or better still contact the landowner to see why he has neglected the site for why it has become such an eyesore.

Please miss my car out :}

Anonymous said...

Thanks link to TTC meeting

Mr. Longbeard said...

No need, I didn't make the accusation, and I too would probably be found guilty of trespass as I use the site to park on when I go into town.

But from what I understand access is only possible because a delivery truck broke the gate, I'm surprised the driver and / or shop haven't had it repaired at their expense.

Miles Weaver said...

Longbeard, agreed.

Ian (NOT @WR15) said...

Well said Mr Longbeard and Lesley. On the whole I share your views (and those of @WR15). I repent of my barbs - I just love the cut and thrust of lively debate!

Anonymous said...

Mr Longbeard..

There was also access to the car park, the entrance between the Spar and the tourist information office.

Anonymous said...

Tenbury needs to get into the 21st century. Tesco certainly hasn't spoilt Ludlow in any way and they now have Aldi and the Co-op. Bring on Tesco

Anonymous said...

Tesco have spoiled Ludlow. I live and work in Ludlow and the Tesco store is an eyesore. They also have impacted on the town. Co-op is only there because of taking over the Somerfield merger. Aldi is not the same as Morrisons, Tesco, Asda etc. Aldi is a totally different supermarket on what they provide so cannot be compared to Tesco.

Miles Weaver said...

If you come off the train at Ludlow, you are greeted with Tesco. Follow up the road .....

You might find a castle somewhere and a nice little market town.

Supermarket town or market town?

Ian said...

Oops! I think Dr Weaver must be having another Whetherspoons moment!

@WR15 said...

I think Ludlow proves that you can have both, a supermarket & a market (& independent shops). One of the butchers claimed his trade improved after Tesco's arrival.

Ian said...

See tonight's "Town" on BBC2. I hope Dr Weaver was watching (if he wasn't in a Whetherspoons' establishment!)

Miles Weaver said...

How fantastic it was Ian?

Just goes to show how concerned people were. I was not in fact in 'Spoons' after my lunar society meeting at Soho House we went to the Barton Arms. One of the most famous pubs in the industrial revolution.

Chosen for its preserved fine architecture and support of LOCAL ALES. Just like Tenbury should be, supporting our own and being unique!

You were of course watching with a Tesco Value roast in a bag?

Miles

- Again Ian, sorry that I am authentic and show my full identify so that you can research my credientials.

I just really really care about the future of the Town. Not sure what your interest is? Maybe your answers were addressed by #Town.

Miles Weaver said...

@WR15 What is 'distinct' about Ludlow in comparison to Tenbury?

Address this and this might help with your previous comment.

Resilience?

Ian said...

Miles - I know the Barton Arms (a gem), Soho House and the history of the wonderful Lunar Society very well. So we do have some tasetful things in common! By-the-way, there's an interesting letter in today's Times about posts and insults.

Ian said...

Miles - I am just as concerned as you are about the future of the town in which I live. Based on my personal experience of trying to identify new and viable uses for derelict sites and considering everything in the context of the economic climate I cannot see who, apart from someone of the size of Tesco, would have the financial clout and the investment patience, to develop this site. As others have already said, if the people of Tenbury don’t want Tesco, and don’t shop there, they’ll be off - but you know, and I know, that once built people will shop there and, I guess, in large numbers. Based on the retail survey undertaken by the professionals I don't think Tesco will have a negative impact, overall, on the retail sector in Tenbury. Quite the contrary.

Miles Weaver said...

Ian - great. It was a pleasure as a modern member to see where our forefathers once sat to discuss their new inventions.

When Matthew Boulton built the first and largest factory the world had ever seen and attempted to have 1 shop in London. I wonder if what he would think now, if he were to look back and see the decline of industry and the rise of the supermarket.

Of course the Soho Manufacturtory and mint is now a housing estate and recently opposite the 'new' but now 'housing complex' Royal Mint a Tesco has recently appeared.

The Barton Arms still stands out like a giant. A real pub, overlooked by Newtown Shopping complex. No Tesco, a Aldi, farmfoods and of course McDonalds.

I very much enjoyed the programme on Ludlow last night. It has resilient but has many other advantages.

Tenbury is totally different. We must move forward, discuss and debate and not be forced by Tesco.

My whole argument is not about Tesco or not. We must pull together and agree what Tenbury needs to be a vibrant 'market' town in the future. What is in that mix should be debated by the community and not dictated by 1 corporation.

This debate has not taken place; our councillors and MP have failed us. Taking sides on Tesco or not, is not the first reaction.

It is to call a face to face debate on 'Why and what'. Tenbury futures have stepped up our elected individuals have not. So applaud them.

Anonymous said...

Does Tenbury have an MP?

@WR15 said...

Yes. Doesn't everywhere?

Rugby fan 72 said...

Tenbury is "served" by Harriet Baldwin...Burford is represented by Richard Dunne....both of whom appear, in my opinion, to struggle to understand or even see the predicament/ issues we have in Tenbury....whether that be the "Great Bridage Debate" or maybe even the development of the CM....politics gone mad...

Philip Dunne said...

Philip, actually!

Anonymous said...

I think most people are concerned about the apparent power and influence of Tesco but is it all bad news for Tenbury or does it create an opportunity to think about the future. Just make sure that you get fom Tesco what you need. Now is the time.
Didn't someone try to stop the tide coming in many years ago and failed?

Miles Weaver said...

Yes, my grandad often met the Tesco developers in the 90's as a MHDC cabinet member and town councillor.

A clear no all the way around. There was never a 'yes please' then.

Only a decade ago the town had a vibrant Sat and cattle market.

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