There seems to be little visable progress this week except for work on the railings, which are slowly reappearing coated with the English Heritage prescribed white colour.
Hopefully progress will now be swift, and the road bed replaced so that Tenbury can get back on track, with the bridge opening by March 16th.
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Walking over the bridge today, it was very interesting to see a hole that has been dug (alongside the new concrete under the pavement). The hole is right through so you can see the river underneath, and I say interesting as it is by my estimations only 6" deep!
I went to look, but it had gone. I know there were plans to access the key stones at the top of some of the arches through the road bed.
After improvements I think the bridge is theoretically designed to take 1x 44 tonne HGV going ONE way across it at any one time (i.e. everything else has to stop while it does so).
It's an interesting reality check though to hear how thin the bridge's arches really are.. It reminds us (even after the completion of works) that if anything bigger than a Bedford Rascal minivan were on the bridge with said 44 tonne HGV that the combo could still compromise the bridge's max working loadings.
I don't think that is how the maths works.
Then how does 'maths' work WR15?
Don't forget it's not a single span or suspension bridge and a 44 tonne vehicle would have more than one wheel on the ground so the load is spread about.
If a 44 tonne lorry had 18 wheels then the maximum load per wheel might only be 2.4 tonnes. (That is an oversimplification to illustrate my point)
There's been much speculation that the bridge works are also a cover for making sure that Tesco's HGV's can go over it safely..
Whether that's true (or not) the word on the street in town this morning (via an individual linked to MHDC) was that Tesco are instigating a freeze on many ongoing and future devt projects so they can have a corporate strategy re-think.
Their Stourport devt has apparently been stopped as have various projects abroad.
Now your trying to make it seem lighter. If there is only 2.4 tonne per wheel there is still 44 tonnes coming down on the bridge.
So WR15 stop trying to make a 44 tonne lorry seem lighter.
WR15, what happens if two 44 tonne lorries meet at the bridge and one has to go onto the pavement. What is the weight limit of the footpath?
It was as low as 7.5 tonnes in places, I believe it will be the same rate as the carriageway once completed.
So your telling me WR15 that these 44 tonne lorries have been dangerously driving on the footpath and they have been putting lets say 22 tonne as only one side is on the footpath. And you want more lorries in the form of Tesco to come across it?
Why would they put it the same as the carriageway once completed? Why should lorries need to go on pavement? So why would they make it 44 tonne limit there too? I son't see any 44 tonne people walking across the bridge
With the number of lorries crossing a day (now & in the future) it is rarely necessary for two to try and cross at the same time.
The bridge has always been narrow, and most sensible drivers (especially HGV drivers) anticipate their journey across the bridge, and wait if they see a large oncoming vehicle.
Tesco lorries will rarely if ever weigh 44 tonnes.
The number of Tesco lorries will be less than the number of Morrison lorries that already use Tenbury as a short cut each day, & that doesn't seem to have caused the kind of problems some predict.
As to specifics about the loading capabilities of any specific area of the bridge, you best address your queries to the bridge engineer. I only know the information that I have read/heard at briefings.
Tesco will be less than Morrison's? I DON'T THINK SO. Tesco are having SIX yes SIX deliveries a week. And that's not counting the bread/milk etc.
I think you are missing my point. Morrisons have several deliveries a day and fuel tanker deliveries too. These lorries regularly short cut through Tenbury.
By comparison at one delivery per day, Tesco will have less.
Your missing my point I was not counting their bread deliveries or milk deliveries etc. Tesco will have MORE and do more damage
If Tesco get permission, I think deliveries will be such a small percentage of the general traffic that wont be a problem.
Unless Tesco source their bread from somewhere obscure, it is likely that company already has a lorry delivering in town.
I believe Tesco get bread from Hovis where as only Warburton and Kingsmill (that I see of) come into Tenbury
Ive seen Warburtons bread in Tesco .
Does that mean Warburtons deliver to a Tesco distribution hub?
Not sure how it works.
Tescos certainly sell Warburton and Kingsmill and Bowketts & Spar sell Hovis (as well as Warburton and Kingsmill)
Kingsmill, Allinson & Sunblest are all products from Allied Bakeries.
Warburton's appear to be independent.
Hovis, Mothers Pride, Mr Kiplind & Lyons are part of Premier Foods.
Yo mu knowledge Spar does not sell Hovis
Ashley's Bakery sells Hovis that they baked themselves?
According to Worcestershire County Council, there has been no work done on the pavements. So they will continue to be only 7.5 tonnes as you said WR15.
So I suggest you start worrying when you see lorries coming across on the pavement. Because I for one will not be standing on the bridge when this happens.
I suggest they refuse this Tesco application so no more damage can be done and watch the bridge crumble away down the Teme and eventually into the Severn/Atlantic Ocean.
I'd hope you weren't on the pavement if a HGV takes to it, you'd be a tad squashed.
If Tesco does happen we've no need to worry about additional deliveries, the anti lot have said they'll cause the closure of everyone else, so they'll not be having deliveries, so in the long run there will be less deliveries in the long run.
No because this would mean Tesco would sell more and would have to increase their deliveries. So in the long run we have a one shop in town with dangerous crumbling bridge and having to maneuver through a car park with HGV's with children about. A accident waiting to happen.
Not sure why you say.
"According to Worcestershire County Council, there has been no work done on the pavements."
Clearly work has been done!
Click the link above for the latest official briefing and note the new reinforced concrete pavements.
The bridge isn't crumbling, it's been repaired.
Oh wow a waterproofing membrane. THIS IS NOT STRENGTHENING!!!
The bridge is being repaired yes but we need a new bridge in a suitable place where lorries can cross without trouble.
Plan B sounds good to me
You really are something. Can't you see the concrete. It wasn't there before.
Plan B doesn't fit if it's drawn to scale, unless you demolish the Spar building!
Then demolish the SPAR building!!
But we don't need Tesco!
Wow a little bit of concrete. That concrete is not to strengthen the pavement. Lorries are not meant to be on footpaths. In fact I'm pretty sure you can get a ticket for driving on footpaths.
They won't strengthen the pavement. Why spend money where you don't have to. You all moan when they do so why on this occasion do you think it is ok
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